User talk:Pppery
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– Fayenatic London 20:32, 14 July 2016 (UTC)Fráňa Zemínová
[edit]Hi, I disagree with closing the RM on the Fráňa Zemínová page as no consensus. I challenged the decision of the previous closer (see User talk:Ivey#Fráňa Zemínová), who advised me to start a new RM instead of a move review. However, in the justification for closing the RM, you criticize the reopening of the discussion and, on the basis that it is the second discussion, you closed it. Either Ivey gave me meaningless advice or your closing of the discussion is meaningless. Can you please provide a more detailed statement on this? As I already mentioned when contacting Ivey, I do not agree that this is no consensus, unless we only count the votes. By analyzing internet sources and literature, I have proven that the name I prevails in modern reliable sources. The opponent (creator of the page) did not support his claim and argued only with the quantity (not quality) of google hits, with a misleading filter. FromCzech (talk) 18:02, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
- I don't have anything more to say; I can't decide you're right and Number 57 was wrong as that would be a supervote. I think you just have to accept that you've made your case but failed to convince anyone else and drop the matter. Personally I think Ivey was wrong and you should have been told exactly that in the first move request; you had already made your case there but had failed to convince anyone else, but whatever, you were given a second chance and it too failed. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:18, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
- It is frustrating when the outcome of a discussion is decided by low participation and not by arguments and sources. The opponent argued with sources that, upon closer inspection, prefer my proposal to his, and yet his opinion is taken as equivalent to my research. FromCzech (talk) 18:42, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
- That might be true, but there's nothing I can do about it. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:48, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
- It is frustrating when the outcome of a discussion is decided by low participation and not by arguments and sources. The opponent argued with sources that, upon closer inspection, prefer my proposal to his, and yet his opinion is taken as equivalent to my research. FromCzech (talk) 18:42, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
Ah, the bygone days of 2007
[edit]Quite the page log on that one, wasn't there... Mopping was performed quite differently back then... Hah! Thanks for moving what us mortals cannot. TiggerJay (talk) 05:07, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for trying to transclude {{afd1}} onto Template:List of Olympic competitors intro. I think there are some technical issues with this approach -- on the template page it says "This template is being used in the wrong namespace", and WP:BUNDLE seems to recommend doing {{subst:afd1}} on each individual page. I asked about doing this on Sandstein's talk page and the help desk as advised there but couldn't get a response.
I want to do this the 'right' way but as I'm involved I wanted some confirmation of best approach to take in this somewhat unique situation. I also think it may be a little moot sadly as there are only a few hours left in the AfD. --Habst (talk) 03:54, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- I was aware I was doing something non-traditional; I personally think the best approach is to ignore the error on the template, rather than making AWB edits to dozens of pages and then (most likely) having to do the same again if the AfD is closed as something other than delete. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:55, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
Wikipedia by location categories
[edit]Why are you trying to get these deleted? Who does it help? There is so much worthwhile work to do (and I see you doing a lot of it), I can't see why you waste your time on things like this, let alone other people's. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 21:25, 7 September 2025 (UTC).
- Because my definition of what is "worthwhile" and what is "wast[ing my] time" is different from yours, of course. I think it's worthwhile and not a waste of time to try to enforce the rules on what user categories should exist, even if I haven't done it much recently. I'm autistic; one of the defining traits of autism is an interest in tasks many people see as unnecessary or silly. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:28, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
Some examples of Linter error fixes that were not "pointless busywork"
[edit]One person's "pointless busywork" is another person's "fixing a page that is thoroughly broken due to a Linter error. And that is just a tiny sampling of the millions of errors that I have fixed since 2018. To each their own. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:30, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
Bludgeoning
[edit]Ok, on second thoughts and reflection, maybe I was... should I remove some of my comments? —Matrix ping mewhen u reply (t? - c) 17:17, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
- Removing comments that have already been replied to will only make things worse; you're welcome to remove comments that haven't been replied to, or just stop making further comments and let your existing comments stand. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:18, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
Yettel
[edit]Thanks for moving the weird-name talk page. (However I'd mention the related request in the summary; also I'm not sure what was meant by "misplaced" image). Regards, —Mykhal (talk) 06:08, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
Re: mentee questions
[edit]I was reading through your message, and then it appeared you had rollbacked. The past year has really been stressful resulting in my net inactivity on this project (in particular), while my activity on Commons also remained impacted (even though as an admin I had to be a bit more responsible). I tried responding to queries as much as I could and then marked myself as away - academics, life, and wiki, trying to make up with this stable triangle. Thanks for your great work. I will be more careful whenever I plan to reactivate the feature for myself. ─ Aafī on Mobile (talk) 17:11, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- I reverted myself because I realized you had marked yourself as away already so I didn't need to say anything. Sorry for the trouble. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:12, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
Ragging
[edit]Hi there! I hope this message finds you well. I notice that when the article on Ragging in Pakistan was moved to draft space you removed the {{main}} and {{excerpt}} bits that I had added to the main article. While that's likely the right thing to have done at this point, it highlights that the article is highly focused on one regional perspective. I added {{globalize}} and started a discussion on the talk page. I would very much appreciate any contribution you could make to that discussion. Best regards, (— 𝐬𝐝𝐒𝐝𝐬 — - talk) 21:18, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- I have nothing specific to say on the matter - I was just doing some cleaning of dozens of maintenance reports of various sorts, including Category:Articles with broken excerpts. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:19, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
Why I didn't use the "Page Move" button.
[edit]So, once, a long time ago, there was this building that I was involved with the design of. And it was used for something that required lots of security guards and helicopters and stuff. And it had a room which wasn't on most of the plans, a room that was at the intersection of four other rooms; if you'd measured them all, you'd have realized that their square footage didn't add up to the sum of the square footage of their perimeter, but probably nobody ever bothered to. That room was a SCIF, so it was RF-shielded. At the time, it had a sliding door, which was camouflaged as a bookshelf. If you knew it was there, and knew how to unlock it, the bookshelf would slide sideways, and there would be the doorway. Which will eventually be pertinent to the story. Anyway, some years later, the building changed hands, and a year or so after that, I went on a date with someone who happened to be senior at the company that had bought the building from its original owners. This was quite a coincidence, so of course I told her about it and, having had dinner and a few drinks, we both thought it would be fun to go see if it was still there. Her company was an electronics company, but not involved in security stuff. So, we go, and the bookcase is gone, and now there's just a really sturdy door, that's copper-plated on the inside, and grounded, and the whole room has been re-fitted with RF measurement instrumentation, and clearly it's being used for doing RF qualification or certification or whatever of their electronic gear, which seems like a good use. So she wants to get out our phones, and see if there's any reception, so we do, and the door is closed, so there isn't any reception. It's like midnight on a Friday night at this point. And we go to leave, and the door isn't opening. We're yanking on the door handle, and pulling and pulling, and the door isn't going anywhere. So we start to panic, because there really isn't any cellular signal, and it's a SCIF, so there isn't a landline or phone system extension or intercom or anything. We're yelling, and banging on the inside of the door with a microphone stand... and a guy opens it. Outward. The door opened outward, not inward.
There you go. I didn't use the "Page Move" button because I saw something about asking an administrator to merge the edit history, and fixated on it, and didn't even think of moving the existing page.
So, thank you. Bill Woodcock (talk) 20:47, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- What an interesting story. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:48, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
September 2025 Tirah airstrike - Incorrect reason for Extended Protection
[edit]Hello, I noticed that you recently added Extended Protection to the September 2025 Tirah airstrike article, citing the Wikipedia:Contentious topics/Arab–Israeli conflict as the reason. However, Tirah is located in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan, which borders Afghanistan. Therefore, the Wikipedia:Contentious topics/South Asia designation would be more appropriate. JacksonFolly (talk) 15:26, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Whoops, not sure what I was thinking there; If I had read the correct topic area I likely wouldn't have protected at all so I've just unprotected the page entirely. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:28, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
Roller coasters
[edit]Could you double-check your recent edit to {{Infobox attraction/status}}? It didn't quite accomplish what you intended it to — it spawned upwards of 100 redlinked categories at Special:WantedCategories for the new wording, while not actually pulling pages out of the old-wording categories you were trying to move to the new names. For example, Monsanto House of the Future had both the bluelinked Category:Amusement park attractions introduced in 1957 and the redlinked Category:Amusement park attractions opened in 1957 on it at the same time.
Ideally, of course, the templates shouldn't really be autogenerating or transcluding the categories at all, so that things like this don't happen — they should just be directly declared on the pages themselves, so that category moves can easily be handled by a bot without messy complications that require template modifications. But that's a bigger job than I think anybody wants to take on at this time.
For the moment I've had to revert your edit to make the redlinked categories go away, but obviously you can restore it if you can figure out and fix whatever went wrong. Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 13:48, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Ugh. Retried an improved version of that edit. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:40, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
Mysterious user on Phabricator
[edit]Hi, might you know who Bugreporter2 is? Their background and connection to the wiki movement is mysterious, and they seem to be quite busy replying to various Phab reports, and in my case, needling me on nomenclature on a feature request and asking vague questions. I'm not sensing full seriousness from this individual, and basically, especially because I have no idea who they are, I don't see why I need to answer to them. Stefen 𝕋ower's got the power!!1! Gab • Gruntwerk 18:33, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- They're Special:CentralAuth/Finchgold on-wiki. Unfortunately that doesn't help you since you surely don't know who Finchgold is either. Beyond that I don't know, and I concur they tend to be a bit pushy at times and you aren't obligated to answer them. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:36, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. I have to say I'm a little flabbergasted to see a user with so little work to their name (including none on Wikipedias) throwing their opinions around in our bug report system. I'm always happy to answer reasonable questions, but I have felt somewhat that this user is yanking my chain. From now on, unless I see a constructive request from them, I will ignore it. Cheers! Stefen 𝕋ower's got the power!!1! Gab • Gruntwerk 18:59, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) This response does seem to support StefenTower's point; also, the irony of their complaint about unhelpfulnes is ... noted :) —Fortuna, imperatrix 19:34, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- It's like someone off the street has walked into a company and takes a cubicle next to a senior employee, and begins asking questions, some which seem off-base. After a while, the senior employee gets up and walks over to his manager and asks who the new guy is, and says they can't remember any meeting or discussion about who the new guy is, or why the new guy is in any position to ask them questions. The lack of transparency from this user combined with their pushiness is just so odd. Stefen 𝕋ower's got the power!!1! Gab • Gruntwerk 20:07, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) This response does seem to support StefenTower's point; also, the irony of their complaint about unhelpfulnes is ... noted :) —Fortuna, imperatrix 19:34, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. I have to say I'm a little flabbergasted to see a user with so little work to their name (including none on Wikipedias) throwing their opinions around in our bug report system. I'm always happy to answer reasonable questions, but I have felt somewhat that this user is yanking my chain. From now on, unless I see a constructive request from them, I will ignore it. Cheers! Stefen 𝕋ower's got the power!!1! Gab • Gruntwerk 18:59, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
Reverted GRACE page move
[edit]FYI. I've reverted your move of GRACE and GRACE-FO with the reason "GRACE and GRACE-FO are the WP:COMMONNAMEs. Please discuss before moving." Danbloch (talk) 22:19, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
Empty Categories
[edit]Hello, Pppery,
I was about to tag all of these empty categories in Category:Railway stations in Africa as CSD C1 but then I noticed you had just created them. Are you going to be filling them soon? Just thought I'd check first. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 23:33, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- JJMC89 bot III is supposed to be merging other pages into them. I've been feeding the bot absolutely ridiculous amounts of work to do today, so it hasn't gotten around to it yet (but it should in a few hours at most). * Pppery * it has begun... 23:35, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- We have dozen and dozens of empty categories popping up right now. I'm glad to hear that it is just a matter of the CFD bot getting to fill them. Thanks for letting me know. Liz Read! Talk! 01:40, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- The railway stations in Africa categories are no longer empty. If I had known it would take this long I probably wouldn't have done things this way, but, well, I went hog-wild in clearing a giant backlog of things to do and the result was that I created a much longer backlog for the CFD bot than I had anticipated. * Pppery * it has begun... 06:16, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- We have dozen and dozens of empty categories popping up right now. I'm glad to hear that it is just a matter of the CFD bot getting to fill them. Thanks for letting me know. Liz Read! Talk! 01:40, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
A kitten for you
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This is the look of a kitten who has spent the entire day making biscuits and receiving little to no appreciation for such professional baking. One could say this is the equivalent or spending two days clearing through backlogs. I think you both have a lot in common and would get on well. The tabby is all yours. CNC (talk) 02:04, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Category merge
[edit]Hi, Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 September 3#American sportspeople by country of descent seems to have had a copy-paste error that resulted in many sportspeople of Cuban descent being put into Category:American people of Armenian descent. Would be much appreciated if it's not too much trouble to clean up. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 13:07, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- I think this is now sorted. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:02, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
I have sent you a note about a page you started
[edit]Hi Pppery. Thank you for your work on Emerald Pool (Yellowstone National Park). Another editor, Northernhenge, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:
Thanks for creating this article. It would be good to make it clearer that this is a different location from Emerald Spring.
To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|Northernhenge}}. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)
Northernhenge (talk) 21:39, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- I didn't really create the article - I just split it from the page previously at Emerald Pool which was an amalgamation of several different pools combined in one. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:45, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
[edit]| The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | |
| Hi Pppery, thanks for helping tackle that giant, growing CfD backlog monster. So nice to see it at single digits. Thanks for your very much underappreciated work! Best, GoldRomean (talk) 18:38, 28 September 2025 (UTC) |
Undeletion request
[edit]Hello Pppery! I have an undeletion request for Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Latin music which was deleted after a deletion request. I would like turn it to a draft space or my own sandbox and convert it into a taskforce instead of a full fledged WikiProject after getting consensus on the WikiProject's talk page. Thank you. Erick (talk) 18:57, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Has this been discussed somewhere? I would be willing to undelete if it seemed like there was actual movement toward a group of editors interested in Women in Latin music, but I'm not seeing that right now (and honestly the page there consisted of almost entirely boilerplate anyway). * Pppery * it has begun... 03:39, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry about the month-long wait response, I believe I have enough supports for the task force, here is the discussion for the consensus. I'm ready to convert it to a task force. Erick (talk) 20:39, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
Category query
[edit]Hello, Pppery,
I've been sitting and looking at these empty English MPs stub categories over the past few days (see Category:English MPs 1467 stubs as an example and you can find them all listed in Category:15th-century English MP stubs). Has the speedy merging involved with these 13 categories finished and can these categories now be deleted? If they had been part of a regular CFD nomination, I'd be able to look at the discussion and see but since they were sent to the "Speedy" section, I'm not sure how to tell when the process is finished. Thanks for any clue you can provide.
Also, it was only over the weekend that I could see the mammoth amount of work you had done over the past few days, clearing out old CFDs. Many thanks for devoting the huge amount of labor involved in this process. Kudos to you! Liz Read! Talk! 03:02, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Whatever is going on with the English MP stubs is a total mess and not related to anything I've done. The same person created the categories, marked them for speedy merging, and then, before any admin could action the request, removed it implying they would CSD tag instead, but then didn't. Unless OpalYosutebito says something different here I would delete the lot as G7. And you're welcome. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:34, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Definitely. I give you full permission to remove any empty categories that remain. I'll be more careful next time I receive a massive stub proposal from WP:WPSS/P... - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 14:26, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
Code review
[edit]Hello there! I've submitted a MediaWiki patch, but it's awaiting review for more than a month now. Is this normal or am I supposed to contact someone to review it? I thought I'll wait to see how this goes before working on other stuff, but it looks like it'll take a while. Since you helped me with running the CI, I'm asking here. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 03:59, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- It's unfortunately very normal for patches to languish indefinitely waiting for review. Everyone knows this is a problem, but nobody knows what to do about it, all all efforts to solve the problem have died without solving it (the best hope was mw:Code review/Patch board). Hell, I have a patch pending review for more than a year. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:18, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
Nice edit summary
[edit]I am of the same mind. We have a few new or returning editors who have been making tons of edit requests that are, IMO, some combination of incomprehensible, trivial, controversial, and a couple other things I can't think of. Some appear to be possibly-good accessibility changes that I do not understand and that nobody who monitors the TPER queue is taking on. I take care of the usual easy ones, but the queue is long and we might need to close a bunch of them as "get consensus" or some other cop-out. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:14, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
Infobox Australian place
[edit]Howdy. I wanted to send you a separate message regarding the tfd discussion for Template:Infobox Australian place. First of all let me just say I have huge respect for you as an editor. You've helped me out a number of times and corrected my errors in the past. That being said, your comments that nothing fundamental has changed
were... disheartening. A LOT of work has gone into this recent iteration. It is NOT a true merger, nor is it a deletion. It is a conversion. ALL information is retained. There is not, at this point, any advocating for removal of information that is important to Australian places. What this does it modernize the template, eliminating things like hard coded conversion such as {{rnd|{{{area}}}/2.589988110336|1}} to convert the area from km2 to sq mi in favor of more modern approaches. It also unifies the templates look and feel to be like the other 576,000+ settlement pages on Wikipedia.
I'm sure you have other projects you are working on, but can I implore you to please take some time to really look at the testcases? If you have specific objections to how something is being displayed, I 100% want to hear that! A number of people (particularly Australian editors which I am not) have raised issues. Some of them were typos, some of them were just my lack of understanding about Australia. I really want to hear this feedback so that we can improve the template. I just ask that you please don't rubber stamp this as just another attempt at the same thing. I really did my homework and tried to address the issues raised in previous TFDs.
Thanks for hearing me out! Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:49, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- We seem to be talking at cross-purposes to each other. I didn't mean that nothing fundamental had changed in a technical sense, nor to disparage what you had done (although from a glance at the testcases page I do see several instances of broken mapframe tags and at least one double file markup case). I meant more than nothing fundamental had changed in an abstract social sense - the community using this template didn't want it to become a wrapper last time, and I see no value in fighting this fight again and trying to forcibly change things out from under them. I think when we edited at TfD together back when you were last active in 2019 I would have agreed with you and supported this merge (and may well have), but now I've become more jaded and am not seeing a convincing reason to stir things up in this way and think it's better to let things be as they are. (I've always been somewhat biased against change as a personality trait associated with autism and I've been getting increasingly fed up lately with repeated proposals (not from you) for frivolous-seeming change of various sorts, so may be seeing this from a more jaded, biased perspective that the community, in which case my view won't get consensus - so be it then). * Pppery * it has begun... 17:25, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry to jump in - I just followed the link you shared on the main discussion. I just wanted to add that if your main objection is that the editing community doesn't want it, I think Zackmann has done a pretty good job at winning them over now. Several initial objectors have changed their votes to 'merge'. It now stands at five merge votes to one 'not ready yet' (although Zackmann has since addressed those concerns) and your own 'oppose' vote. It would be a pity if it collapses now on the basis that the community used to oppose it when, in fact, most now seem to have come around. Dgp4004 (talk) 17:42, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- Appreciate the feedback from both of you. Pppery I will address the broken mapframe today. Hopefully we can make this work. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:02, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry to jump in - I just followed the link you shared on the main discussion. I just wanted to add that if your main objection is that the editing community doesn't want it, I think Zackmann has done a pretty good job at winning them over now. Several initial objectors have changed their votes to 'merge'. It now stands at five merge votes to one 'not ready yet' (although Zackmann has since addressed those concerns) and your own 'oppose' vote. It would be a pity if it collapses now on the basis that the community used to oppose it when, in fact, most now seem to have come around. Dgp4004 (talk) 17:42, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
Busey Cat
[edit]| Busey Cat | |
Yep, it's Busey Cat. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 21:19, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
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- What? * Pppery * it has begun... 21:19, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Don't worry, I think it's house trained.
Fred Gandt · talk · contribs21:24, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Don't worry, I think it's house trained.
Template:Country data Georgia
[edit]Not sure if you are aware, but your tagging of Template:Country data Georgia has added a highly unnecessary notice to every single Georgia flag invoked via {{Flag icon}}, and has broken some tables, e.g. XIX_International_Chopin_Piano_Competition#Results. In addition, the linked RfD page has no discussion on the matter. intforce (talk) 23:44, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Fixed the link. The rest is an intended consequence of the way deletion discussions of templates and template redirects work. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:46, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
Demand Signal Repository
[edit]I created the page to explain Demand Signal Repositories many years ago. Back then, Wikipedia accused me of stealing content from Relational Solutions website. I owned Relational Solutions for over 25 years and created the website, white papers and all the content. I explained that years ago when it was under review. It looks like in February, you decided to ignore that information and delete it again. In addition, I started and still manage, The Demand Signal Repository Institute group on LinkedIn. Please recognize that I am not stealing materials from myself and replace the page again. Thank you. Janet Analyst246 (talk) 16:41, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- I did not decide to delete it. The community did, and I merely implemented that decision - see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Demand signal repository. And I decline your request to undelete the page. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:57, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
The redirect National Highway 67 (India) (old numbering) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 October 13 § National Highway 67 (India) (old numbering) until a consensus is reached. Steel1943 (talk) 18:22, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
Debbie Grayson
[edit]Thanks for reviewing Debbie Grayson. I got super sick and couldn't finish my review by the time the redirect was deleted. TheObsidianGriffon (talk) 21:24, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
TfD
[edit]TM:Discrimination sidebar is tagged for deletion. Since you closed the TfD, any reason why you didn't delete it? Toadspike [Talk] 09:30, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- Presumably because I didn't have enough time or motivation to remove it from hundreds of pages first. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:24, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- All good, I was just worried that maybe I was missing something and the template shouldn't have been deleted yet. It looks like @Explicit has since taken care of it. Toadspike [Talk] 15:28, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
Bees and toxic chemicals - GA status doesn't prevent merging
[edit]Short clarification: Hello, I'm sorry to note that the environment is disheartening in some ways and don't wish to add to this impression in any way. I hope you there is a path and a way for you to refresh. This is a friendly note for accuracy, after your edit summary on rollback of Bees and Toxic Chemicals merge with Bees. I'm sure that was in good faith, but I'm noting that Good Article status does not exempt a page from merging. Per Wikipedia:Merging, any page may be merged into another if the topics overlap, the material is redundant, or one page covers the subject more appropriately. My merge proposal for Bees and toxic chemicals followed the correct process and set out clear grounds on the talk page, including overlap with existing articles and concerns about framing, arising from the very nature of the title, under WP:NPOV. I gave a clear exposition of the legitimate procedural and content-based reasons for going ahead with the merge, and received no opposition to the case set out in the detailed literature review I produced after about ten hours' research. I hope that clears up my intention and frames the position in a useful way? Thanks Astral highway (talk) 13:26, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
- I didn't revert you because you were boldly merging a GA. I reverted you because you had reinstated an edit you knew to be contested without getting a proper consensus for it. Given that I had reverted your edit, it then remained a GA absent a GAR. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:33, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for explaining. I genuinely thought the revert was obstructive given that I'd followed process, and my response wouldn't be a problem. We learn! Astral highway (talk) 16:07, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
A goat for you!
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Thank you for your work on The Wikipedia Adventure! I just completed the tutorial and feel much better about navigating the site as a productive contributor. Thanks again to you and everyone else who keep that program running!
Natiewing (talk) 20:33, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
- You're welcome. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:27, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
Early life of Sarat Chandra Chattopadhyay
[edit]Hello Pppery, can I ask why you redirected my page? I had given my reason on the talk page. Babin Mew (talk) 03:11, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- The reason is that I saw that the page had been tagged for speedy deletion, decided that at the very least it was a plausible redirect, and so redirected it since the CSD tagger could have done though themselves - I didn't do an especially close look at the merits. That said, doing a closer look now, separate articles on people's early lives are extremely unusual, and I don't see enough content there to warrant a separate page; the content there could just be merged with the broader article. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:13, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Early lives of people do exist like here, here and here. This was going to be just like these. And I am aware that there isn't enough content on the page, this is why I put and under construction template on the bottom of that page. Can you bring the page back again? Babin Mew (talk) 03:21, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Sarat Chandra Chattopadhyay is nowhere near as famous as Newton, Obama, or Cleopatra so I think you're comparing apples to oranges. And finally you don't need me to restore the page; nothing is technically stopping you from bringing it back yourself since no use of the admin deletion tool is involved. But do so at your peril; another new page reviewer will see it and they may think similarly to me (or may not). * Pppery * it has begun... 03:23, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe not Obama, but he is definitely as famous as Tagore. I can certainly restore the page. But can you remove the speedy deletion template now that I have stated myself? Babin Mew (talk) 03:31, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- No, I would leave it to be reviewed by an uninvolved third party. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:32, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- I am going to remake this page in my sandbox and paste it there once its ready. No one will disturb me there. Babin Mew (talk) 03:35, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- No, I would leave it to be reviewed by an uninvolved third party. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:32, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe not Obama, but he is definitely as famous as Tagore. I can certainly restore the page. But can you remove the speedy deletion template now that I have stated myself? Babin Mew (talk) 03:31, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Sarat Chandra Chattopadhyay is nowhere near as famous as Newton, Obama, or Cleopatra so I think you're comparing apples to oranges. And finally you don't need me to restore the page; nothing is technically stopping you from bringing it back yourself since no use of the admin deletion tool is involved. But do so at your peril; another new page reviewer will see it and they may think similarly to me (or may not). * Pppery * it has begun... 03:23, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Early lives of people do exist like here, here and here. This was going to be just like these. And I am aware that there isn't enough content on the page, this is why I put and under construction template on the bottom of that page. Can you bring the page back again? Babin Mew (talk) 03:21, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
Conversion script 2005 edits
[edit]Thanks for finishing what I'd begun with the erroneously imported 2005 edits of Conversion script. I was about to ask you to do them for me as you're an admin, but then I thought I'd better work on it because of my experience with 2001 edits (in hindsight I could've asked you to do the ones with weird byte differences in the diffs (see T38976), and that would probably have been fine). I'm glad I did it myself though because I did indeed find a few odd situations (also see my talk page message here). I'm writing here because I too was thinking about dumping all the junk edits in a single page, like you did. The reason I decided against that was that the history merge target is automatically watchlisted if the source is, so as of time of writing, the holding cell you created, User:Conversion script/Trashcan, has 13,178 watchers. Both amusing and a bit terrifying. Graham87 (talk) 09:36, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Enjoy the irony overload, if you like. I initially used an existing page as a base because I didn't know if the history split would work at all. Even navigating the page history on the hiistory merge special page there was often almost impossible. Graham87 (talk) 12:05, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- See T408282. I too realized that at one point but simply decided I didn't care. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:21, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
Request for changing target redirect on Module:Adjacent stations/SZRT
[edit]Hello, @Pppery... Please change the target redirect on Module:Adjacent stations/SZRT into Module:Adjacent stations/Suzhou Metro because WP:2REDIR. Thanks. 158.140.164.16 (talk) 11:28, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- What is stopping you from doing this yourself? Why are you involving me in it? * Pppery * it has begun... 14:22, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
Inappropriate edit summary
[edit]Hello, I found your page from https://apersonbot.toolforge.org/recently-active/?admins page, I m trying to resolve the issue with the inappropriate edit summary that has been published; this inappropriate edit summary directly targets me. This edit was left on Nick Fuentes page. I won't quote the edit summary, but it was done by a user named Fruitful Frugal. This is the first time I m dealing with such a situation, therefore I apologize in advance for any misunderstanding. Please, if you could help me out with this issue, I would be grateful. Shadowfax33 (talk) 19:41, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- Edit summary hidden, blocked. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:48, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for the fast and swept action :) Shadowfax33 (talk) 20:15, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- Shadowfax33 has now been community banned for being a white supremacist over at WP:ANI. Should Fruitful's block be reviewed? I can't see the suppressed edit, but if he called Shadow a nazi, that's the community consensus. If it was for an f bomb, a few of those were used at ANI also. ~2025-31252-16 (talk) 19:28, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
- The block expires tomorrow anyway. I'll let it stand despite that revelation. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:44, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
- Shadowfax33 has now been community banned for being a white supremacist over at WP:ANI. Should Fruitful's block be reviewed? I can't see the suppressed edit, but if he called Shadow a nazi, that's the community consensus. If it was for an f bomb, a few of those were used at ANI also. ~2025-31252-16 (talk) 19:28, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for the fast and swept action :) Shadowfax33 (talk) 20:15, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
Template:Discrimination sidebar
[edit]Hi, I am a bit miffed I missed this as I had worked on it. I am not asking for review, however would you be able to temporarily draft it or copy the code to a sandbox? Perhaps User:Metallurgist/sandbox/discrimination. I would like to make sure everything from the sidebar is incorporated into the other template. Thanks. ←Metallurgist (talk) 18:11, 30 October 2025 (UTC)
- There's nothing from the sidebar to incorporate. Since 2023, the sidebar template had used {{excerpt}} to directly copy content from navbox template (using wikitext like and so on for the other sections). * Pppery * it has begun... 17:06, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
| list9name = Manifestations | list9title = Manifestations | list9 = {{startflatlist}} {{excerpt|Template:Discrimination|Manifestations|hat=no}} {{endflatlist}}
- Oh derp, thats correct. I do remember being confused by that when I worked on the template awhile ago. Nevermind. Then I fully support the deprecation. ←Metallurgist (talk) 18:51, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- I actually hate those sidebar things, altho I understand the arguments for them. But on smaller pages, with an infoxbox, images get forced really far down. ←Metallurgist (talk) 18:52, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oh derp, thats correct. I do remember being confused by that when I worked on the template awhile ago. Nevermind. Then I fully support the deprecation. ←Metallurgist (talk) 18:51, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
FYI
[edit]FYI: Special:CentralAuth/Pppery_is_better — xaosflux Talk 16:31, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
New user performing questionable edits
[edit]Hi @Pppery,
I wish to bring to your attention AmitSingh7007. This account was created on 2025-10-22, and their edits are tantamount to vandalism. A common theme seems to be duplicating infoboxes:
They've also vandalised one Wikimedia page (note especially the fifth last line) and one Wikidata page.
For your convenience, I've placed this code below:
AmitSingh7007 (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · rfar · spi · cci)
I hope you're not feeling too discouraged these days. Keep up the great work.
Regards, Alexanderino (talk) 20:50, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- I have reverted all of their edits that nobody else had gotten to. Since all of them are weeks old there doesn't seem to be any need for any further action beyond that. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:02, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, Pppery. Much appreciated. Alexanderino (talk) 21:10, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
Unprotection request
[edit]Hey there. I've just had a look at Draft:Kerala Cricket League through AfC and I think its coverage has improved enough since its last AfD that it can be moved to mainspace.
You protected the target page Kerala Cricket League back in June as it was being repeatedly recreated. I'd like to request the page be unprotected so I can accept the article and move it to mainspace. Thanks :) SnowyRiver28 (talk) 07:25, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Unprotected. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:45, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
Closure of Twitter Move Request
[edit]I need some help understanding something. You closed the Twitter move request and then stated that the moratorium remains in effect. How can you declare something to remain in effect that never had consensus in the first place? It was unilaterally declared. There is no Wikipedia procedure for challenging or overturning or even for declaring a moratorium. It seems that everyone is making this up as they go along, and in the process are shutting down discussion and preventing consensus. I do not believe that your closing was justified by the discussion, and the decision to declare the moratorium still in effect has no basis at all. My best guess is that you’re basing that on preservation of the status quo, but that gives far too much power to a single admin to declare a moratorium without establishing a consensus, which would need to stay in place based on failure to achieve a consensus to overturn. How do I get clarity on the process here? Dustinscottc (talk) 23:40, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
- Indeed, your "best guess" is correct. But I'm not interested in engaging in yet another round of metaprocedural arguing with you after you've WP:BLUDGEONed basically every venue imaginable (Twitter's talk page, Timrollpickering's talk page, the move review, etc.) WP:AN remains available as a venue to challenge my closure if you really really insist, but I would strongly suggest that you WP:DROPTHESTICK. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:16, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, yes of course. "Drop the stick". Another way to shut down discussion. Dustinscottc (talk) 01:16, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
Recent edit summaries and aggressive tone
[edit]Hello @Pppery:. You seem to have an outwardly aggressive tone in your disposition, despite you having an incivility incident with User:Red Shogun412 and even having to apologize, see for example this edit summary. Was it really necessary to include yourself being "bothered" by it, would it be a huge feat for you to assume good faith rather than taking it out on someone, and would it have made a difference regardless? Furthermore you are bludgeoning contentious religion-related CfD pages instead of relisting them which is unbecoming of an admin and also goes against WP:ADMINACCT. ~2025-31572-21 (talk) 14:54, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
- @~2025-31572-21: You don't happen to be the same person as ~2025-31319-62 (talk · contribs), do you? Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 14:59, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
- Do not cast accusations at me. You have done this before and even reported me to AIV without proof, and you had no luck with that. ~2025-31572-21 (talk) 15:01, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
even reported me to AIV without proof
: I have not reported this temp account to AIV, unless you're talking about a different one. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 15:03, 6 November 2025 (UTC)- Here's the diff for that (it got auto-clerked without a response I suppose). FWIW, I am this user telling you off for the same exact reason, coincidentally also dealing with an issue regarding Shadowfax33. ~2025-31572-21 (talk) 15:24, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
- Do not cast accusations at me. You have done this before and even reported me to AIV without proof, and you had no luck with that. ~2025-31572-21 (talk) 15:01, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
- Re User talk:Pppery#inappropiate edit summary, see WP:Administrative action review#October 2025 Block of Fruitful Frugal by Pppery.
- That edit summary included no assumption of bad faith. Nothing in that edit summary incompatible is incompatible with the good-faith-assuming belief that NeedsGlasses simply didn't know how the rules for moving pages over redirects worked - many people don't. It's merely a factual claim about how the MediaWiki software behaves, nothing more.
Furthermore you are bludgeoning contentious religion-related CfD pages
-> assuming you mean Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 October 25 since I have not to my knowledge comments on any other CfDs related to religion, then I shouldn't have relisted it because I have an opinion on how it should behave, and WP:ADMINACCT is completely inapplicable since I have been acting as an editor rather than an admin there, and in fact explicitly promised (in Q11 of my RfA) not to act as an admin there. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:27, 6 November 2025 (UTC)- Pppery I am simply restating, the work of the administrator is signified by the mop. YOU have a janitorial work; it is not a big deal, nor is it required from you to take complete accountability if you do not have the agency to. You don't have to be "bothered" or "annoyed" by administrative work if you find that simple good faith corrections are too much to handle, you can just put down the mop if you feel the "WikiStress" is too much. ~2025-31572-21 (talk) 15:31, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
- And you don't have to tone police how I think. I'm not bothered by administrative work, per se. I'm bothered by people asking admins to do things they could have done themselves. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:32, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
- Pppery I am simply restating, the work of the administrator is signified by the mop. YOU have a janitorial work; it is not a big deal, nor is it required from you to take complete accountability if you do not have the agency to. You don't have to be "bothered" or "annoyed" by administrative work if you find that simple good faith corrections are too much to handle, you can just put down the mop if you feel the "WikiStress" is too much. ~2025-31572-21 (talk) 15:31, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
Hi
[edit]Hi, sorry for disturbing you, I created any alternative account, I saw that your alternative account talk page redirect to your main account, can you please help me with mine. (User: Destiny Okhiria (alt) < this is the account)
Destinyokhiria 💬 11:38, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
- I have no idea what you want me to do. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:39, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher)Looks like they figured out how to redirect the alt's user talk to the main user talk. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:39, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
Re: close of Category:Scholars and instructors of spoken Latin or spoken Ancient Greek
[edit]Hello!
I don't often bother the closer of a discussion, but are you sure that Category:Scholars and instructors of spoken Latin or spoken Ancient Greek was No consensus? There were multiple votes by Latvvot (the category creator) who was the only user in opposition to the proposition, and several users (me included) in support and not agreeing with Latvvot's arguments. Thanks BTW for closing the backlog of long-opened discussions. Impressive work today! Place Clichy (talk) 21:41, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
- I think I must have parsed the multiple voted comments as separate people when closing. Anyway I've reopened it now. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:48, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
Thank you! Place Clichy (talk) 08:05, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
Notice of noticeboard discussion
[edit]
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrative action review regarding an action which you performed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dustinscottc (talk • contribs) 05:56, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
2026 Indian Premier League
[edit]Hey! The article you protected from editing - List of 2026 Indian Premier League personnel changes, the draft (Draft:List of 2026 Indian Premier League personnel changes) for it is ready. So, can you please check and shift it to the mainspace and protect the article for atleast till 17 december - the auction date. Thanks! Neeelzzz20 (talk • contribs)
- I have unprotected the title, allowing the draft to be moved to mainspace. I don't see any need to protect the resulting article - that would be against WP:NOPREEMPT. That said, I really didn't see the point of this request; the protection would have expired in 5 days anyway and it's primarily about an event that won't happen for a month. What's the rush? * Pppery * it has begun... 02:43, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
Anand Mishra article administrator protection
[edit]Hey Pppery, I noticed you have protected the page Anand Mishra to require admin access for creation, rightly so seeing the multiple violations of WP:N. Recently in the 2025 Bihar Legislative Assembly election, a candidate was elected from the Buxar Assembly constituency with the same name. According to WP:NPOL all subnational politicians in India are considered notable, while creating other articles, I noticed the admin protection on this, I would be nice if you could either create the article or remove the admin protection, the subject was also covered widely outside of his electoral politics so I believe it satisfies the notability criteria on his own too. Xoocit (talk) 09:58, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection/Decrease#Anand_Mishra where a source was asked for. I'm going to choose to let the RFPP process play out rather than unprotecting myself (please respond there rather than here). * Pppery * it has begun... 22:21, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
Works about the illegal drug trade
[edit]Hi, you closed this CfD. The result was to alt rename "illegal drug trade" to "the illegal drug trade". One of the categories nominated in the alt rename was renamed but Category:Television episodes about illegal drug trade was missed. It still has the CfD notice. Can you please process that one? Cheers, Mclay1 (talk) 14:32, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
Weird crossnamespace redirect
[edit]Hello, Pppery,
I just saw on one of my Quarry lists the page titled Pppery:User:Pppery. Ordinarily, I'd just delete but since it's a redirect concerning you, I thought I'd tell you and you could handle it however you chose to. Liz Read! Talk! 22:20, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- I have no idea either. Deleted. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:28, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- WP:Help desk#I cannot reach userpages. It is goingto (USERNAME:user:USERNAME) looks related. —Cryptic 23:35, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- I don't know about the Help Desk comment but I noticed that earlier you had reverted the page creator's edit to WP:CSD. On their User page, the editor acknowledges they are autistic so maybe this was some kind of reaction to that edit reversion. Not a big deal as long as it doesn't become a habit. Liz Read! Talk! 23:59, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- actually i just picked whoever had most recently edited WP:CSD at the time for the test Oreocooke (talk) 20:52, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- Please don't test things in mainspace. Wikipedia is not a test site. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:54, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- yes ok sorry about the wording as well Oreocooke (talk) 02:00, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- Please don't test things in mainspace. Wikipedia is not a test site. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:54, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- actually i just picked whoever had most recently edited WP:CSD at the time for the test Oreocooke (talk) 20:52, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- looking at it, it most certainly is related. it's exactly the bug i noticed. Oreocooke (talk) 09:42, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- I don't know about the Help Desk comment but I noticed that earlier you had reverted the page creator's edit to WP:CSD. On their User page, the editor acknowledges they are autistic so maybe this was some kind of reaction to that edit reversion. Not a big deal as long as it doesn't become a habit. Liz Read! Talk! 23:59, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- WP:Help desk#I cannot reach userpages. It is goingto (USERNAME:user:USERNAME) looks related. —Cryptic 23:35, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
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Re uncivil reply from editor
[edit]Hi @Pppery! I am sure you have seen this, however this reply to a message you left was ridiculously uncivil. It is not within my capacity to warn them for this, however I did post a template regarding the use of edit summaries, as they have consistently not done this. Just wanted to let you know about this, in the unlikely event you in fact didn't see that reply. Thanks! 11WB (talk) 22:33, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- I'm very aware of that. See also WP:XRV#October 2025 Block of Fruitful Frugal by Pppery. I'm not going to sanction them for it since they now seem to have moved on to other less fraught matters, and despite the emotive language they actually did kind of have a point. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:39, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- I am aware of this, they have however had warnings about incivility dating back months. My issue is with their lack of edit summary use, which is relatively minor, but important nonetheless. I've made a note to them to be more respectful and collaborate with other editors, per WP:5P4. 11WB (talk) 22:43, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- Regardless of what the context of that block was, the way they responded to you was completely unnecessary and would not be permittable under any context. I respect your decision however and also give you credit for the AN/I post, which I don't think was actually required on your part given the edit summary they had written prior. 11WB (talk) 22:46, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- I am aware of this, they have however had warnings about incivility dating back months. My issue is with their lack of edit summary use, which is relatively minor, but important nonetheless. I've made a note to them to be more respectful and collaborate with other editors, per WP:5P4. 11WB (talk) 22:43, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
Aziz Naza
[edit]Hi Pppery — I'm User: Kjogitha . I noticed you deleted "Aziz Naza" and its talk page on 18 Nov 2025 (G8 / G7: author-requested deletion). Could you please either (a) restore the page, or (b) provide a copy (refund) into Draft:Aziz_Naza or to my userspace at User:____/Aziz_Naza so I can improve sourcing and address any issues? I will add reliable third-party sources and make it neutral per WP:BLP. Thank you — Kjogitha (talk) 07:28, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- Looks like Significa liberade already did this. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:58, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
Undeletion - page-move-ability?
[edit]I saw you undeleted the old redirect that was at the place of Rhythm Heaven Groove, presumably to merge the history of it with the draft. If I come across something like this in the future (redirect in mainspace with more than one revision that I can't page-move over), is it appropriate to swap the draft and the redirect (moving the redirect to a placeholder title, accepting the draft through AFCH, and moving the redirect back to draft) and tag the article for history merge, instead of tagging it G6? Thanks. -- Reconrabbit 14:38, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- Both are fine. That was mostly a "since the page popped up on my radar (via WP:Database reports/Possibly out-of-process deletions#G6) and I was touching the page anyway I might as well undelete" action, not a required action by any means. I don't particularly like {{db-afc-move}} because I tend to find myself cleaning up after moves that weren't followed up on quickly enough too often, but that's just my opinion, not consensus. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:02, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
Defunct/disused/former railway stations
[edit]Hi there. Please may you close Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 October 10#Defunct/disused/former railway stations as it has not been active since 22 October and it is clogging up WikiProject UK Railways/Article alerts. There doesn't seem to be a clear consensus for a specific rename. Thanks, JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 15:42, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- I've looked at that discussion several times and not been inspired to close it - I don't think slapping "The result of the discussion was No consensus * Pppery * it has begun... 16:04, 21 November 2025 (UTC)" on a discussion with that much input would really help anyone, but haven't seen any specific consensus yet. So I'm leaving it for someone else who will hopefully be more inspired. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:04, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
1760s cricket articles
[edit]Hi, Pppery. I'm not sure myself that amboxes are the right way to stress the needs of WP:PRESERVE, but a whole series of earlier versions have had to be restored. The articles had been quite well developed up to 2018, though still needing work, but they were then effectively reduced to inadequate stubs which served no useful purpose at all. That was done in clear breach of PRESERVE, and I thought there should be something in the articles to say why they have been restored.
The main change I want to do in each article is convert the match table to prose. This has already been done in a few cases like 1726, 1732, and 1744. After I've done that, I can consider the article to have moved on, and the ambox will then be removed. There'll still be things to do like copyediting and developing the lead, but the substance and sources are already there in most of them.
That's the Plan A, as it were, but I'm completely open to suggestions, and will happily consider a Plan B or C.
Hope that explains things, but please contact me if you think of anything else. Thanks, and all the best, Jack (talk) 10:22, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
[edit]| The Admin's Barnstar | |
| for you, Theknoledgeableperson (|have a chat) 18:53, 23 November 2025 (UTC) |
did you know
[edit]you've done so much that i had to log in to xtools to view your thing Oreocooke (talk) 07:35, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
I remember seeing this tagged for speedy deletion as vandalism back in 2011 and it had existed I think since something like 2007 so this could also be added to the hoax archive. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:21, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
- It existed since November 2006. But not particularly inclined to do anything about it now - let sleeping dogs lie and all that. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:22, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
Requesting protection
[edit]Hi. Since you're currently an admin on dev.miraheze, can you protect my user talk page there? And delete all LTA contributions. Nvdtn19 (talk) 14:02, 25 November 2025 (UTC)