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Hi there, I am new (to this page and to wikipedia editing) so apologies if I am not adhering to guidelines. Please do correct me! I think that in general, but in particular for this section we need to write about the leadership of developing countries in adapting and building resilience to climate change and that they are not just portrayed as victims. I have started to do this by adding a sentence or two on Bangladesh but there is much more that can be added. MduToit74 (talk) 13:17, 30 November 2020 (UTC)MduToit74[reply]

Thanks for making this edit, MduToit74! That's a good move and we need more of that... EMsmile (talk) 02:09, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Developing country as a historical term

In the introduction, it says that Developing country is equal to LMIC, whereas I think most people think of Least Developed Countries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Least_developed_countries when they say Developing country. In the 1970's the world, in regards to income, looked like a Bactrian Camel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bactrian_camel while it since the last 20 years or so looks more like a Dromedary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dromedary, see the 1970 compared to 2015 figures here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World#Great_Divergence_and_Great_Convergence. Less than 10% of the world's population live in countries that are low-income and thus in what we used to call Developing countries. Perhaps a billion or so live in high income countries, so left are more than 5 billion people, the bulk of humanity, who lives in middle-income countries. The terms Developing/Developed countries are therefore out-dated as the world no longer is divided in two. Let's take Hunger as an example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger#/media/File:Hunger_Map_2020_World_Food_Programme.svg. Some countries in Europe (Developed Countries) have a higher proportion of people suffering from hunger than a quite large number of countries in Developing countries. So, just like the use of 1st/2nd/3rd world countries describing how the Cold War divided the world, but where people still use Third World countries as a term for low-income countries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-world_model, I would like to change the content in the article so that the term Developing country also is viewed as a term belonging to how the world was divided, but not is anymore. -- Please also refer to the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Developing_country/Archive_1#Discussion_about_name_change_(again) for a previous similar discussion. Olle Terenius (UU) (talk) 15:56, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I took part in the previous discussion, so for people who are new, please take a look at that archived discussion link. I personally don't think this statement is true: "I think most people think of Least Developed Countries when they say Developing country". Is there any evidence for it or just a gut feeling? I don't have evidence at hand either but as far as I can see from the literature, newspaper articles, websites, blogs etc. the term "developing countries" is currently still used interchangeably with "low and middle income countries" (maybe it'll change in future?), and includes the sub-articles of e.g. Least developed countries, Small Island Developing States, Landlocked developing countries, Heavily indebted poor countries (there is probably some overlap and repetition between those articles which ought to be improved). Note that I also started a discussion here about a possible new category for "developing countries topics": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Categories#New_category_for_articles_that_deal_with_topics_in_developing_countries? Overall, the guiding principle for the naming of Wikipedia articles is WP:Commonname. It'll be interesting to hear what everyone else things. - Apart from that, nothing would stop you, Olle Terenius (UU), from improving the content of this article and adding more information, using reliable sources. A good starting point would be the section on "definitions" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developing_country#Definitions). Also the section on "opportunities" needs reworking (it's actually a left over section from an earlier version of the article). EMsmile (talk) 12:11, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Given that developing countries do not have a very coherent definition, I would not start further discussion topics related to them. In my opinion, it is better to have specific rankings of development indicators (GDP per capita, infrastructure, health, etc.) across all countries than to have very broad but not very precise articles on developing countries or to restrict attention to an arbitrarily picked set of countries. I would follow the World Bank approach in that as they are the biggest experts 99.225.143.94 (talk) 12:50, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Gulf, Chile, Mauritius, Seychelles

How is UAE, Qatar, and the gulf countries except Yemen not developed?🤫🤫🤫 democratic no but developed yes Nlivataye (talk) 15:57, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nlivataye we can only go by what the published sources say. Do you have a publication handy that states that those countries are not grouped as developing countries? If yes, then please add that information with the source. Thanks. EMsmile (talk) 01:29, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Most likely human rights and violence agaisnt women. 13Sundin (talk) 08:44, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Backward Area" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Backward Area has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 28 § Backward Area until a consensus is reached. TartarTorte 18:05, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest to delete the IMF map and downplay/discuss their definition

The IMF term, the only institutional definition at this point since the World Bank has abandoned the term and at the UN it is by self identification, is Developing and Emerging Markets and not Developing Countries. As discussed later in the article, their definition emphasizes global financial integration instead of general level of economic and social development. For this reason, I would not use their map and it is questionable whether a workable definition of developing countries exists. I would just have a historic overview, and then jump to the classification of the World Bank and Global South, etc. In summary, I propose deleting the IMF/UN map (or keep the UN portion only), and start with the WB classification. The IMF classification is discussed later anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.225.143.94 (talk) 12:38, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest we do keep the map in the lead but we add some further context and explanations to the caption to indicate to the reader that "it's complicated!". EMsmile (talk) 08:32, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced country status changes by the IMF

Those 4 countries' status was not changed by the IMF, should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2025-34990-91 (talk) 00:19, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Same person here. Not sure why Smasongarrison keeps adding this back when obviously there are no sources for this, and they are untrue. ~2025-34990-91 (talk) 22:07, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Finding sources, like the tag indicates is the better solution here. Please stop removing it without discussion. ^SMason_Garrison 01:33, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I did not remove anything but the onus to find sources is on the person who claims a fact. If a fact is not backed up in a few days, then it should be removed.

What is your timeline for removing unsourced facts? ~2025-34990-91 (talk) 12:21, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's not how wikipedia works. The solution is to add the source, not remove the fact. This is not a biography of a living person, where there is a higher standard for sourcing being present immediately. Wikipedia:Verifiability ^SMason_Garrison 13:21, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@~2025-34990-91@ETQueEsteveEmVarginha This is an ongoing discussion. I've asked you repeatedly to stop removing the tag without discussion. ^SMason_Garrison 20:17, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I did not remove it, someone else did. There must be a timeline to remove unsourced "facts", otherwise they are just kept indefinitely. I could invent a "fact", and then it needs to stay there forever with a tag? ~2025-40740-17 (talk) 09:40, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have pointed you to the policy. Finding sources, like the tag indicates, is the better solution here. ^SMason_Garrison 13:34, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bulgaria will be added by IMF due to adopting euro, other three countries (Poland, Hungary, Romania) have higher GDP per capita than Bulgaria, so probably they also will be added (it would be analogical to adding Czechia in 2009 along with Slovakia despite not adopting euro). ~2025-40451-50 (talk) 16:59, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, the IMF specifically said they won't upgrade Bulgaria for now. Even if and when they do, it does not mean Hungary and the others will be upgraded. Their criterion is financial integration and stability, and not economic development. ~2025-40740-17 (talk) 09:37, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Always countries when adopted euro were added (Estonia in 2011, Latvia in 2014, Lithuania in 2015). And in official documents there would be "Eurozone except Bulgaria"? ~2025-41000-87 (talk) 11:36, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]