Talk:University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign
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| On 9 January 2026, it was proposed that this article be moved to University of Illinois Urbana–Champaign. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
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[edit]Why is there no 'at' in the article name? "University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign" rather than "University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign"? The latter is stated as the official name of the institution, and seems to be the widely used version. Should it be changed? I am not directly familiar. Onanoff (talk) 01:12, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- See Our Name. Dicklyon (talk) 02:07, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- https://illinois.edu/about/index.html branding has changed to not include at. Here's a good blog post: https://aaronson.org/blog/whats-the-name-of-this-university Dipthong01 (talk) 18:43, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
- The "Our Name" link is 404 Not Found. The relevant information can now be found at Name and Boilerplate — Foxtrot1296 (talk) 22:42, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- https://illinois.edu/about/index.html branding has changed to not include at. Here's a good blog post: https://aaronson.org/blog/whats-the-name-of-this-university Dipthong01 (talk) 18:43, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
Wow
[edit]This is probably one of the most outrageous RM outcomes I have seen. This goes directly against our MoS, which ignores how institutions brand themselves and what sources use. InfiniteNexus (talk) 21:49, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
- Agreed, I missed this RM somehow, and I never noticed the change. It seems many people were unaware, given how few participants there were for a discussion involving a major university. I'd certainly support somebody reopening it. I find this blog post (linked above) unconvincing. –CWenger (^ • @) 23:05, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
- The RM should have been overturned per WP:RMNOMIN:
Any move request that is out of keeping with naming conventions or is otherwise in conflict with applicable guideline and policy, unless there is a very good reason to ignore rules, should be closed without moving regardless of how many of the participants support it
. But it's been so long (two years), MR is no longer a noption, so a new RM would have to be opened. InfiniteNexus (talk) 01:24, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
- The RM should have been overturned per WP:RMNOMIN:
Trump Administration Coming After UIUC for Dependence on Chinese Money, Finally
[edit]Perhaps someone wants to add this to the artikle. https://selectcommitteeontheccp.house.gov/media/letters/letter-dr-timothy-k-killeen-president-university-illinois-urbana-champaign
~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.207.91 (talk) 19:19, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
Requested move 9 January 2026
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus is that TMRULES trumps DASH. (closed by non-admin page mover) Thanks, 1isall (talk | contribs) . . (he/him) 21:45, 16 January 2026 (UTC)
University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign → University of Illinois Urbana–Champaign – WP:DASH; A dash should be used instead of a hyphen, as this is a compounding of two cities. Additionally, the page for the Champaign–Urbana metro area already uses the dash. I see there was a discussion about this a few years ago, and I'm not sure why it didn't result in a move. Manual of Style trumps any university branding. Red0ctober22 (talk) 22:54, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
- Mildly oppose. I was about to support this because an en dash is clearly correct per MOS:DASH. But then I saw this at MOS:TMRULES: "Do not 'correct' the spelling, punctuation, diacritics, or grammar of trademarks to be different from the reliably sourced spelling – the name should be recognizable as referring to the topic." We have Mexican–American War even though the majority of sources use a space or a hyphen, but it's not a trademark. So I guess I'd lean toward keeping the hyphen. More than anything, I'm annoyed at UIUC for standardizing a mistake! –CWenger (^ • @) 01:15, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose. This is a great point. I can see the argument for the en dash, but in this case, the hyphen is part of a well-established proper noun. As was mentioned several years ago, the hyphen features prominently in both the university's longstanding internal branding (even before the "at" was dropped) and, more importantly, in external mentions by news media. Just personally, I think it would be silly for Wikipedia to use styling that very few (possibly zero?) other major websites use when referring to this university. Chevsapher (talk) 06:40, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
- Strongly oppose. This was litigated in 2021, with consensus resulting in a move to the current dash-based article name, and nothing policy-wise or name-wise has changed since then to warrant reconsideration. Yes, it too bothers me that they didn't use the grammatically correct endash. However, as @CWenger posted, MOS:TMRULES states that we are not in the business of correcting punctuation in official names because we think they made a mistake. The university has been using a dash in various forms since 1906 [1], and all of its official style guides use a dash [2][3][4]. This could well be a vestige of the limitations of typewriters, but alas it's stuck with the official name. It's also not like the name references the metro area, as the metro area always names Champaign first given that it's double the size of Urbana. Vmanjr (talk) 23:43, 11 January 2026 (UTC)
- Mildly oppose. I was about to support this because an en dash is clearly correct per MOS:DASH. But then I saw this at MOS:TMRULES: "Do not 'correct' the spelling, punctuation, diacritics, or grammar of trademarks to be different from the reliably sourced spelling – the name should be recognizable as referring to the topic." We have Mexican–American War even though the majority of sources use a space or a hyphen, but it's not a trademark. So I guess I'd lean toward keeping the hyphen. More than anything, I'm annoyed at UIUC for standardizing a mistake! –CWenger (^ • @) 01:15, 10 January 2026 (UTC)